tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4954486699810607306.post4395980333914475614..comments2023-11-02T02:40:48.410-07:00Comments on Crime Fiction Collective: Pricing Your Way to New FansL.J. Sellershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10213491074676394406noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4954486699810607306.post-29597609180283309742011-07-04T09:15:56.836-07:002011-07-04T09:15:56.836-07:00Jodie, Rowling is only offering e-versions of her ...Jodie, Rowling is only offering e-versions of her books through her Pottermore.com website.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12487464497446199247noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4954486699810607306.post-8410354712382127542011-07-04T08:02:38.096-07:002011-07-04T08:02:38.096-07:00Al, any of the 'big guys' will tell you th...Al, any of the 'big guys' will tell you the best marketing tool is to write another good book. Which is hard to do if you have to spend a lot of time marketing!<br /><br />Terry<br /><a href="http://terryodell.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Terry's Place</a><br /><a href="http://www.terryodell.com" rel="nofollow">Romance with a Twist--of Mystery</a>Terry Odellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11610682530545306687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4954486699810607306.post-12011038780359372452011-07-04T08:02:23.038-07:002011-07-04T08:02:23.038-07:00Jodie, I was there in 2007, and got to attend vari...Jodie, I was there in 2007, and got to attend various authors Craftfest presentations, and they were all very cool. I saw David Morrell, Barry Eisler, and about a half-dozen other authors. I took something valuable out of every one of them...not to mention getting some books signed by some of my favorite thriller authors...Al Leveronehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09875867178918970838noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4954486699810607306.post-59418687888539536942011-07-04T07:59:33.653-07:002011-07-04T07:59:33.653-07:00Terry, I know exactly what you're saying as fa...Terry, I know exactly what you're saying as far as promotion is concerned. I've only had one book released, and I've tried various different promotion/marketing strategies with no idea what might work. I guess the best bet is just to keep writing the best books possible and see what happens...Al Leveronehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09875867178918970838noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4954486699810607306.post-86880542087666946862011-07-04T07:57:11.787-07:002011-07-04T07:57:11.787-07:00Good point about JK Rowling, LJ, and if arguably t...Good point about JK Rowling, LJ, and if arguably the world's most successful modern author chooses to self-publish, that's a pretty clear indicator of the current state of publishing, even if she's only doing it electronically. <br /><br />I hadn't seen the news that Eisler signed with Amazon Encore, but I'm sure as Amazon gets their genre imprints up and running, he undoubtedly won't be the last big name to sign.Al Leveronehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09875867178918970838noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4954486699810607306.post-64880129825324504982011-07-04T07:33:17.296-07:002011-07-04T07:33:17.296-07:00Even with low prices and special offers, it's ...Even with low prices and special offers, it's still an uphill battle finding those niche (romantic suspense/mystery) readers who are willing to take a chance on a relatively unknown author. I've had 7 books published with traditional publishers, but they're all small press/limited distribution. <br /><br />I've run a buy 1 get 1 free promotion, and even that hasn't created the spike in sales I'd hoped for. But I have definitely made more money selling my back list titles at prices ranging from 99 cents to $2.99 that I'm making on the books, both e and print combined where the publisher has control. <br /><br />(And I think Barry Eisler is actually going with Amazon's new mystery imprint rather than strictly 'self publishing' although I could be mistaken)<br /><br />Terry<br /><a href="http://terryodell.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Terry's Place</a><br /><a href="http://www.terryodell.com" rel="nofollow">Romance with a Twist--of Mystery</a>Terry Odellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11610682530545306687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4954486699810607306.post-13460707253278766762011-07-04T07:20:57.292-07:002011-07-04T07:20:57.292-07:00LJ, Did JK Rowling recently self-publish her Harry...LJ, Did JK Rowling recently self-publish her Harry Potter books? After making huge bucks with large publishers?! If so, that really is revolutionary!Jodie Rennerhttp://www.jodierennerediting.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4954486699810607306.post-12637894042376650792011-07-04T07:20:15.410-07:002011-07-04T07:20:15.410-07:00Thanks for your great post, Al! --And for filling ...Thanks for your great post, Al! --And for filling in for me today. I'm off in an hour or so for New York, then Craftfest at Thrillerfest on Wed. I'll try to nab you that Lee Child t-shirt! LOL <br /><br />By the way, lots of big names teaching at Craftfest this year, including Ken Follett, Steve Berry, DP Lyle, William Bernhardt, Allison Brennan, Andrew Gross, David Morrell, Hallie Ephron, Michael Palmer, and Gayle Linds. I'll take lots of notes, and all my clients will benefit!Jodie Rennerhttp://www.jodierennerediting.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4954486699810607306.post-61605597738189867662011-07-04T07:07:18.886-07:002011-07-04T07:07:18.886-07:00After announcing he was going indie, Eisler signed...After announcing he was going indie, Eisler signed with Amazon, which is now a major publisher in competition with the Big 6. But he also plans to self-publish some work. But J.K. Rowling self-published the Harry Potter books, an even bigger game changer.L.J. Sellershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10213491074676394406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4954486699810607306.post-35270995500856832932011-07-04T06:41:32.856-07:002011-07-04T06:41:32.856-07:00LJ and Peg, thanks again for having me here! It...LJ and Peg, thanks again for having me here! It's fascinating, Peg, how in the space of just a couple of years the big ebook debate has turned from viability to what effect their pricing will have over the entire publishing industry. We're in the middle of a revolution, which is sort of appropriate on this July 4th.<br /><br />LJ, the proof of your last point is in Barry Eisler's decision to release his next John Rain book himself. He's one of the top thriller writers currently working as well as a very savvy promoter, and if he believes self-publishing his next novel is to his benefit, passing up a huge advance, that's pretty telling...Al Leveronehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09875867178918970838noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4954486699810607306.post-47839491421860512472011-07-04T06:37:18.954-07:002011-07-04T06:37:18.954-07:00Heath, thanks for stopping by and for taking the t...Heath, thanks for stopping by and for taking the time to comment. By the way, Collectivists, if you're not familiar with Mr. Lowrance's debut psycho-noir instant classic, THE BASTARD HAND, it's well worth your time...I was spellbound from the first page to the last. It ain't pretty, but it's a great read.Al Leveronehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09875867178918970838noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4954486699810607306.post-52832658823076765712011-07-04T06:33:28.280-07:002011-07-04T06:33:28.280-07:00The other point to consider is that authors who ar...The other point to consider is that authors who are published by big presses have little control over prices. The only way those authors can use pricing to attract new fans is to self-publish novels in new genres.L.J. Sellershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10213491074676394406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4954486699810607306.post-89845046142431489552011-07-04T06:32:03.112-07:002011-07-04T06:32:03.112-07:00It's been interesting to see the phases of e-b...It's been interesting to see the phases of e-book discussions evolve from whether or not they were viable, to who is chosing that route and why, to pricing strategies.<br /><br />Thanks for the post, Al.<br /><br />Happy Fourth!Peg Brantleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04906858123466177508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4954486699810607306.post-57452442676735161532011-07-04T06:30:24.666-07:002011-07-04T06:30:24.666-07:00The fact that Big Six publishers are coming down o...The fact that Big Six publishers are coming down on their prices for backlist books indicates they realize the selling point for ebooks is under $5. The downward pressure on prices continues though as more and more indie authors price their books at $.99 to compete for top spots on Amazon's rankings. I think "reasonable" will soon become "cheap" and digital fiction—by all authors— will be affordable for anyone to try.L.J. Sellershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10213491074676394406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4954486699810607306.post-10579526024462078582011-07-04T06:26:29.755-07:002011-07-04T06:26:29.755-07:00Nicely said, Al!Nicely said, Al!Heath Lowrancehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07009721666729276126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4954486699810607306.post-65930915278915855642011-07-04T06:10:46.132-07:002011-07-04T06:10:46.132-07:00Hey, Collectivists, thanks for having me, and Happ...Hey, Collectivists, thanks for having me, and Happy Independence Day!Al Leveronehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09875867178918970838noreply@blogger.com